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Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] False Azure, Blue... ya lyublyu vas?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:49:20 -0800
From: Mary Krimmel <mkrimmel@nethere.com>
To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
References: <45DCFBB9.90308@utk.edu>
We've been here before. Someone recommended the book "Blue : the history of
a color / Michel Pastoureau. Princeton, NJ : Princeton University Press,
2001, c2000" or "Bleu:..". I read it in English; the all-important
illustrations must be the same in French. I second the recommendation, even
though I had hoped for more about the word "blue" rather than the pigments,
etc. And now I have some more questions, especially inspired by Don
Johnson. Do we know whether the Greeks - Homeric or classical - had a word
for blue that covered nearly as much as "blue" does in English - blue
flowers and birds, pigments and gemstones and other stone, eyes, sky, sea
and other waters, rainbow band? Our "cyan" is, I think, quite limited. Do
we know whether "kuanous" is that same color? The rainbow brings up
questions on its own: Is there any agreement about whether it has six
colors or seven? Do the bands (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, {indigo},
violet) have designated (by the appropriate scientists) wave-lengths? Did
the Greeks name the rainbow colors? Other languages?

Thanks for any information, or accessible references.

Mary Krimmel

At 03:16 PM 2/22/07 jansy wrote:

>Dear List,
>
>Inspite of the etymology, when we describe anything as "celestial" ( also,
>as heavenly) we do not necessarily imply it is "blue". In Russian, as Fet
>describes, azure is indeed used as a synonum of sky ( I ask: is it also a
>synonym for heaven?)
. . .
. . .
and from Don Johnson,

>. . .The theory that the Greeks lacked words for certain colors
>...(propounded first I believe by Julian Jaynes) is considered to be
>pretty far-fetched. The classical Greeks, as opposed to those of Homer's
>time, certainly had a word for blue, kuanous, the same as our word
>cyan...The whole spectrum of Greek colors is by no means a congruent match
>with our conceptions of what is meant by the same color-words.

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