Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <39F07FFB.12B39F65@gte.net> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:25:15 -0700 From: "D. Barton Johnson" X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'Vladimir Nabokov Forum' Subject: RE: QUERY: Grillo & Obieto. Boyd response. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: b.boyd@AUCKLAND.AC.NZ to the NABOKV-L ----------------- Message requiring your approval (40 lines) ------------------ =93attributed to Grillo and Obieto, caprice or purpose=94 seems to me already enough: as if =93caprice=94 and =93purpose,=94 in their Italian garb, were = two contrasting styles of artists. "Brian Boyd (FOA ENG)" wrote: > > This message was originally submitted by b.boyd@AUCKLAND.AC.NZ to the NA= BOKV-L > list at LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU. If you simply forward it back to the list, u= sing a > mail command that generates "Resent-" fields (ask your local user supp= ort or > consult the documentation of your mail program if in doubt), it wi= ll be > distributed and the explanations you are now reading will be r= emoved > automatically. If on the other hand you edit the contributions you receiv= e into > a digest, you will have to remove this paragraph manually. Finally, you = should > be able to contact the author of this message by using the normal "= reply" > function of your mail program. > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (40 lines) ------------= ------ > =93attributed to Grillo and Obieto, caprice or purpose=94 seems to me alr= eady > enough: as if =93caprice=94 and =93purpose,=94 in their Italian garb, wer= e two > contrasting styles of artists. > > Which of course doesn=92t stop there being more. My 23-year-old notes tel= l me > there are a number of minor artists of the name Grillo: Blas Grillo, a > painter in Seville, who worked in the cathedral there from 1596-1596; > Girolamo Grillo, a 17C illuminator in Bologna; and the most important, > Jacopo Grillo, also known as Jacopo del Giallo, an Italian miniaturist of > the first half of 16C, who painted a psaltier for the church of San Giorg= io > Maggiore in Venice. > > This of course does not take us much further, but you could try > http://www.doge.it/sgiorgio/app.htm for someone who has written a paper > referring to Jacopo del Giallo. > > Brian Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: D. Barton Johnson [mailto:chtodel@GTE.net] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2000 7:43 a.m. > To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU > Subject: QUERY: Grillo & Obieto > > ADA's menage-a-trois scene is written in the style of several Renassance > painters -- most of whom are identified by the author. But WHO are Grillo > and Obieto? And that "ferreting artist"? And where does that shop sudde= nly > appear from? ANy ideas? Anagrams? > More generally, has anyone found possible prototypes for the scene in II-= 8? > > "That about summed it up (for the magical gewgaw liquefied all at once, a= nd' > Lucette, snatching up her nightdress, escaped to her room). It was only t= he > sort of shop where the jeweler's fingertips have a tender way of enhancing > the preciousness of a trinket by something akin to a rubbing of hindwings= on > the part of a settled lycaenid or to the frottage of a conjurer's thumb > dissolving a coin; but just in such a shop the anonymous picture attribut= ed > to Grillo or Obieto, caprice or purpose, ober- or unterart, is found by t= he > ferreting artist." > (ADA II-8) Which of course doesn=92t stop there being more. My 23-year-old notes tell me there are a number of minor artists of the name Grillo: Blas Grillo, a painter in Seville, who worked in the cathedral there from 1596-1596; Girolamo Grillo, a 17C illuminator in Bologna; and the most important, Jacopo Grillo, also known as Jacopo del Giallo, an Italian miniaturist of the first half of 16C, who painted a psaltier for the church of San Giorgio Maggiore in Venice. This of course does not take us much further, but you could try http://www.doge.it/sgiorgio/app.htm for someone who has written a paper referring to Jacopo del Giallo. Brian Boyd -----Original Message----- From: D. Barton Johnson [mailto:chtodel@GTE.net] Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2000 7:43 a.m. To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU Subject: QUERY: Grillo & Obieto ADA's menage-a-trois scene is written in the style of several Renassance painters -- most of whom are identified by the author. But WHO are Grillo and Obieto? And that "ferreting artist"? And where does that shop suddenly appear from? ANy ideas? Anagrams? More generally, has anyone found possible prototypes for the scene in II-8? "That about summed it up (for the magical gewgaw liquefied all at once, and' Lucette, snatching up her nightdress, escaped to her room). It was only the sort of shop where the jeweler's fingertips have a tender way of enhancing the preciousness of a trinket by something akin to a rubbing of hindwings on the part of a settled lycaenid or to the frottage of a conjurer's thumb dissolving a coin; but just in such a shop the anonymous picture attributed to Grillo or Obieto, caprice or purpose, ober- or unterart, is found by the ferreting artist." (ADA II-8)