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EDNOTE. I would suppose that VN knew the term from lepidopteral descriptions
if not specifically from the species names cited by Victor Fet.
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From: "Stringer-Hye, Suellen" <suellen.stringer-hye@vanderbilt.edu>
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> there is an archaic verb tense of "clathrate" cited in the OED,
> first used in 1623
>
> [f. L. clthr-re to furnish with a lattice or bars, f. clthri (pl.)
> lattice (Gr. , bars): see -ATE3.]
>
> To furnish with or mark like lattice-work.
>
> 1623 COCKERAM, II, To stop with lattice or barres, Clathrate.
> 1731-6 BAILEY, Clathrated, cross-barred.
>
>
> the modern uses are from Chemistry and Botany and were first used
> in 1948
>
> a. Bot. Resembling lattice-work; cancellate.
> WEBSTER cites GRAY.
>
> b. Chem. Designating or relating to a molecular compound in
> which one component is enclosed within the crystals or structure of
> another.
>
>
>
> 1948 H. M. POWELL in Jrnl. Chem. Soc. 63 It is suggested that the
> general character of this type of combination should be indicated
> by the description 'clathrate' compound. 1961 New Scientist 16 Feb.
> 409/3 Under pressure at 2° C, propane forms insoluble 'clathrate'
> crystals in which one molecule of propane is caged by 17 molecules
> of water.
>
>
>
> --On Monday, February 09, 2004 11:07 AM -0800 "D. Barton Johnson"
> <chtodel@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> >>
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> >> There are very few odd words Appel lets go by, but I do agree
> >> that expalining this word would be useful (but so is a
> >> dictionary). Here's what webster says:
> >> "relating to or being a compound formed by the inclusion of
> >> molecules of
> > one
> >> kind in cavities of the crystal lattice of another"
> >> Dane
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >> > Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >> > To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >> > Subject: Fw: query about 'clathrate skirt' in Lolita (Appel)
> >> > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:55:05 -0800
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Brian Howell" <pakmshlter@yahoo.com>
> >> > >
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> >> > > On p. 138, Annotated Lolita, HH says that Lolita tries
> >> > > on a 'swirly clathrate skirt'. I understand this to
> >> > > mean having a net-like pattern. I'm curious to know if
> >> > > N meant by this word a synonym for 'tartan' or
> >> > > 'checked'.
> >> > >
> >> > > Btw, as good as _The Annotated Lolita_ is, I do find
> >> > > it odd how Appel lets obscure words like this go, and
> >> > > yet he translates simple French phrases whose meaning
> >> > > a lot of people who can't even speak French either
> >> > > know or can more or less guess correctly.
> >> > >
> >> > > Brian
> >> > >
> >> > > =====
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> >> > > http://www.tobypress.com/books/dance_geometry.htm
> >> > >
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if not specifically from the species names cited by Victor Fet.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stringer-Hye, Suellen" <suellen.stringer-hye@vanderbilt.edu>
>
> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (97
lines) ------------------
> there is an archaic verb tense of "clathrate" cited in the OED,
> first used in 1623
>
> [f. L. clthr-re to furnish with a lattice or bars, f. clthri (pl.)
> lattice (Gr. , bars): see -ATE3.]
>
> To furnish with or mark like lattice-work.
>
> 1623 COCKERAM, II, To stop with lattice or barres, Clathrate.
> 1731-6 BAILEY, Clathrated, cross-barred.
>
>
> the modern uses are from Chemistry and Botany and were first used
> in 1948
>
> a. Bot. Resembling lattice-work; cancellate.
> WEBSTER cites GRAY.
>
> b. Chem. Designating or relating to a molecular compound in
> which one component is enclosed within the crystals or structure of
> another.
>
>
>
> 1948 H. M. POWELL in Jrnl. Chem. Soc. 63 It is suggested that the
> general character of this type of combination should be indicated
> by the description 'clathrate' compound. 1961 New Scientist 16 Feb.
> 409/3 Under pressure at 2° C, propane forms insoluble 'clathrate'
> crystals in which one molecule of propane is caged by 17 molecules
> of water.
>
>
>
> --On Monday, February 09, 2004 11:07 AM -0800 "D. Barton Johnson"
> <chtodel@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (47
> > lines) ------------------
> >> There are very few odd words Appel lets go by, but I do agree
> >> that expalining this word would be useful (but so is a
> >> dictionary). Here's what webster says:
> >> "relating to or being a compound formed by the inclusion of
> >> molecules of
> > one
> >> kind in cavities of the crystal lattice of another"
> >> Dane
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >> > Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >> > To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >> > Subject: Fw: query about 'clathrate skirt' in Lolita (Appel)
> >> > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:55:05 -0800
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Brian Howell" <pakmshlter@yahoo.com>
> >> > >
> >> > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (22
> >> > lines) ------------------
> >> > > On p. 138, Annotated Lolita, HH says that Lolita tries
> >> > > on a 'swirly clathrate skirt'. I understand this to
> >> > > mean having a net-like pattern. I'm curious to know if
> >> > > N meant by this word a synonym for 'tartan' or
> >> > > 'checked'.
> >> > >
> >> > > Btw, as good as _The Annotated Lolita_ is, I do find
> >> > > it odd how Appel lets obscure words like this go, and
> >> > > yet he translates simple French phrases whose meaning
> >> > > a lot of people who can't even speak French either
> >> > > know or can more or less guess correctly.
> >> > >
> >> > > Brian
> >> > >
> >> > > =====
> >> > > http://www.elasticpress.com/sound_of_white_ants.htm
> >> > > http://www.tobypress.com/books/dance_geometry.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > __________________________________
> >> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> >> > > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
> >> > > http://photos.yahoo.com/
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online
> >> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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>
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> Vanderbilt University
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