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EDNOTE. I don't think VN ever commented explicitly on Kerouac but did make
some vaguely negative remarks about the "beats" in general. The best source
of info on "other writers comments on VN" is Juan Martinez' site
WAXWING.http://www.fulmerford.com/waxwing/nabokov.html#index
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
>
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> Seeing as Johnson brought it up: Nabokov never actually drove during the
> road trips and still wrote one of the all time greatest road trip novels.
> Kerouac never drove either, he was actually quite frightened of driving.
> Speaking of Kerouac, does anyone know what VN thought of his work? My
guess
> (and this is a total shot in the dark - wink wink) is "trite" "banal".
> Dane
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: Fw: Patricia Highsmith and Lolita's road trip
> >Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:45:56 -0800
> >
> >EDNOTE. The "road novel" exchange set me to musing. My first thought was
> >that it was a major AMERICAN ( or primarily so) genre probably connected
> >with the early predominance of the car in U.S. life. And how curious that
> >one of its preeminent examplars would be by a Russian emigre to the U.S.
> >That aspect of LOLITA derived of course from VN's butterfly expeditions
> >west
> >(driven by Vera). The Nabokovs never had a car in Europe and always
> >travelled by train.
> >I suspect a set if subdefinitions are in order. Subcategory of the
> >picaresque? Quixote? Gogol's Dead Souls?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mark Bennett" <mab@straussandasher.com>
> >To: "'Vladimir Nabokov Forum'" <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> > >
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> > > If the definition is stretched but a little, even "Huckleberry Finn"
and
> > > "Moby Dick" might be described as "road novels"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > > Dear Don and List,
> > > >
> > > > There must be thousands of "road novels," and hundreds with roadside
> > > > culture and motels in them. When cornered, even Rabbit Angstrom took
> > > > to
> > > the
> > > > road, like Kerouac and Cassady. There are probably dozens of
> > > "transgressive
> > > > sex road novels." Movies too; one thinks of "Easy Rider," "Sugarland
> > > > Express," or "Thelma and Louise." After all, in the USA, where's the
> > > > only place you can go when your dirty secret forces you to get out
of
> > > > town? I believe that Patricia Highsmith could never have been VN's
> > > > muse -- not
> > > even
> > > > as Yolande Kickshaw!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tom (Rymour)
> > > >
> > > >
>
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some vaguely negative remarks about the "beats" in general. The best source
of info on "other writers comments on VN" is Juan Martinez' site
WAXWING.http://www.fulmerford.com/waxwing/nabokov.html#index
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
>
> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (65
lines) ------------------
> Seeing as Johnson brought it up: Nabokov never actually drove during the
> road trips and still wrote one of the all time greatest road trip novels.
> Kerouac never drove either, he was actually quite frightened of driving.
> Speaking of Kerouac, does anyone know what VN thought of his work? My
guess
> (and this is a total shot in the dark - wink wink) is "trite" "banal".
> Dane
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: Fw: Patricia Highsmith and Lolita's road trip
> >Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:45:56 -0800
> >
> >EDNOTE. The "road novel" exchange set me to musing. My first thought was
> >that it was a major AMERICAN ( or primarily so) genre probably connected
> >with the early predominance of the car in U.S. life. And how curious that
> >one of its preeminent examplars would be by a Russian emigre to the U.S.
> >That aspect of LOLITA derived of course from VN's butterfly expeditions
> >west
> >(driven by Vera). The Nabokovs never had a car in Europe and always
> >travelled by train.
> >I suspect a set if subdefinitions are in order. Subcategory of the
> >picaresque? Quixote? Gogol's Dead Souls?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mark Bennett" <mab@straussandasher.com>
> >To: "'Vladimir Nabokov Forum'" <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> > >
> > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (29
> >lines) ------------------
> > > If the definition is stretched but a little, even "Huckleberry Finn"
and
> > > "Moby Dick" might be described as "road novels"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (16
> > > lines) ------------------
> > > > Dear Don and List,
> > > >
> > > > There must be thousands of "road novels," and hundreds with roadside
> > > > culture and motels in them. When cornered, even Rabbit Angstrom took
> > > > to
> > > the
> > > > road, like Kerouac and Cassady. There are probably dozens of
> > > "transgressive
> > > > sex road novels." Movies too; one thinks of "Easy Rider," "Sugarland
> > > > Express," or "Thelma and Louise." After all, in the USA, where's the
> > > > only place you can go when your dirty secret forces you to get out
of
> > > > town? I believe that Patricia Highsmith could never have been VN's
> > > > muse -- not
> > > even
> > > > as Yolande Kickshaw!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tom (Rymour)
> > > >
> > > >
>
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