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Date: Sunday, July 25, 2004 9:25 AM -0300
From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
------------------ Dear List
It was quite wonderful to learn that the Etruscans were some sort of
early Nabokovians!
This is a triumphant trump-card for playful etymologician´s tromperies
sounding through what initiated as dilemma and turned into a trilemma!
Jansy
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From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu>
To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: TT-5 triomphale (fwd) (fwd)
> ------------------
> I have probably been led astray by too long association with the
> _Finnegans Wake_ lists, which explicate bits in really astounding
> ways. Howsomever:
>
> A few days ago I posted the note re the name of our hero "Persona",
> pointing out that this word, borrowed by English from Latin, was
> further a Latin borrowing from Etruscan (not one of my stronger
> languages), and the Etruscan formed is claimed to be a
> borrowing from Greek.
>
> Now with in few days and few pages we have "triumphales" in
> French, which your handy von Wartburg will tell you, if you
> ask nicely, is borrowed from Latin "triumphalis", based on
> Latin "triumphe", which, according to my OLD (supporting my
> Devoto's introduction to Italian etymology) was borrowed
> by Latin from Etruscan, which "probably borrowed" it from Greek.
> "It's turtles all the way down!"
>
> Must be time for my martini (no vegetables, please)
>
> John
>
> D. Barton Johnson wrote:
> > ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> > Date: Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:02 AM +0900
> > From: Akiko Nakata <a-nakata@courante.plala.or.jp>
> > To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> > Subject: TT-5 triomphale
> >
> >
> > Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello sent me an interesting analysis of
> > "triomphale." Indeed, it alludes to the themes of "3" and "foreseeing."
> > Thank you, Jansy!
> >
> > Akiko Nakata
> >
> >
> >> 12.02: Notre vente triomphale de soldes: Is this commonly used for
> >> "solde"?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello
> > To: Akiko Nakata
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:19 AM
> > Subject: hello
> >
> >
> > Triomphale in French sounds to me as " three- navels" or three
umbelical
> > connections or just as "navel button" or origin ( please, check the
Greek
> > for omphalus ) I was also reminded that one of this omphalus is in
> > Delphi, where the famous pithon foresaw the future.
> >
> > It is far-fetched. But... who knows? We can travel thru languages...
> > Best, Jansy
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > D. Barton Johnson
> > NABOKV-L
> >
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> D. Barton Johnson
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Date: Sunday, July 25, 2004 9:25 AM -0300
From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
------------------ Dear List
It was quite wonderful to learn that the Etruscans were some sort of
early Nabokovians!
This is a triumphant trump-card for playful etymologician´s tromperies
sounding through what initiated as dilemma and turned into a trilemma!
Jansy
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu>
To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: TT-5 triomphale (fwd) (fwd)
> ------------------
> I have probably been led astray by too long association with the
> _Finnegans Wake_ lists, which explicate bits in really astounding
> ways. Howsomever:
>
> A few days ago I posted the note re the name of our hero "Persona",
> pointing out that this word, borrowed by English from Latin, was
> further a Latin borrowing from Etruscan (not one of my stronger
> languages), and the Etruscan formed is claimed to be a
> borrowing from Greek.
>
> Now with in few days and few pages we have "triumphales" in
> French, which your handy von Wartburg will tell you, if you
> ask nicely, is borrowed from Latin "triumphalis", based on
> Latin "triumphe", which, according to my OLD (supporting my
> Devoto's introduction to Italian etymology) was borrowed
> by Latin from Etruscan, which "probably borrowed" it from Greek.
> "It's turtles all the way down!"
>
> Must be time for my martini (no vegetables, please)
>
> John
>
> D. Barton Johnson wrote:
> > ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> > Date: Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:02 AM +0900
> > From: Akiko Nakata <a-nakata@courante.plala.or.jp>
> > To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> > Subject: TT-5 triomphale
> >
> >
> > Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello sent me an interesting analysis of
> > "triomphale." Indeed, it alludes to the themes of "3" and "foreseeing."
> > Thank you, Jansy!
> >
> > Akiko Nakata
> >
> >
> >> 12.02: Notre vente triomphale de soldes: Is this commonly used for
> >> "solde"?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello
> > To: Akiko Nakata
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:19 AM
> > Subject: hello
> >
> >
> > Triomphale in French sounds to me as " three- navels" or three
umbelical
> > connections or just as "navel button" or origin ( please, check the
Greek
> > for omphalus ) I was also reminded that one of this omphalus is in
> > Delphi, where the famous pithon foresaw the future.
> >
> > It is far-fetched. But... who knows? We can travel thru languages...
> > Best, Jansy
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > D. Barton Johnson
> > NABOKV-L
> >
>
>
>
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> D. Barton Johnson
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