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Re: TT-3: shooting drawers with pencils and pawns (ADA) (fwd)
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> From: Akiko Nakata
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> I agree with you that they cannot manipulate objects, but don't they
> somehow "direct" living people indirectly? At least, they are trying to
> induce HP.
Maybe. We hear it from R, so we know that at least some of them think or
imagine that they influence living people. Some living people feel the
influence of guardian angels and ask and receive the advice of those
recently or long departed. Maybe this is real, maybe imagined. Ghosts, too,
have imagination.
Thank you for all your useful comments.
Mary Krimmel
> The most we can do when steering a favorite in the best direction, in
> circumstnces not involving injury to others, is to act as a breath of wind
> and to apply the lightest, the most indirect pressure such as *trying* to
> induce a dream that we *hope* our favorite will recall as prophetic if a
> likely even does actually happen (Ch.24).
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> What about Hugh's "umbral companion"? ". . . Person was conscious of
> something or somebody warning him that he should leave Witt there and then
> for Verona, Florence, Rome, Taormina, if Stresa was out. He did not heed
> his shadow, and fundamentally he may have been right. . . but after all
> it was for him to decide, for him to die, if he wished" (Ch.25).
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> Akiko Nakata
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> From: Akiko Nakata
>
> I agree with you that they cannot manipulate objects, but don't they
> somehow "direct" living people indirectly? At least, they are trying to
> induce HP.
Maybe. We hear it from R, so we know that at least some of them think or
imagine that they influence living people. Some living people feel the
influence of guardian angels and ask and receive the advice of those
recently or long departed. Maybe this is real, maybe imagined. Ghosts, too,
have imagination.
Thank you for all your useful comments.
Mary Krimmel
> The most we can do when steering a favorite in the best direction, in
> circumstnces not involving injury to others, is to act as a breath of wind
> and to apply the lightest, the most indirect pressure such as *trying* to
> induce a dream that we *hope* our favorite will recall as prophetic if a
> likely even does actually happen (Ch.24).
>
> What about Hugh's "umbral companion"? ". . . Person was conscious of
> something or somebody warning him that he should leave Witt there and then
> for Verona, Florence, Rome, Taormina, if Stresa was out. He did not heed
> his shadow, and fundamentally he may have been right. . . but after all
> it was for him to decide, for him to die, if he wished" (Ch.25).
>
> Akiko Nakata
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> D. Barton Johnson
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D. Barton Johnson
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