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I'm no longer sure how this thread got started but I remember the
unusual form of 'pederosis' in _Lolita_ (Part One, Chapter 12, p. 55 of
The _Annotated Lolita_, Vintage 1991, where HH writes ''I had had some
[Italics] experience in my life of pederosis'.
In his note to this Appel explains that the variant is 'from the Greek
paid-[Italics], meaning "child," plus eros [Italics with a horizontal
accent over the 'o'], "sexual love" (akin to erasthai [Italics]: "to
love, desire ardently"), plus Latin suffix, from Greek, -osis [accent on
the 'o'], an "abnormal or diseased condition" (e.g., sclerosis).
Pedophilia is the more common word for H.H.'s malaise.'
Brian Howell
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:22:51 -0700, "Donald B. Johnson"
<chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu> said:
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>
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> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:40:23 +0100
> From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Reply-To: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Subject: Fw: pedagogia/douglas harper online dictionary
> To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum
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> Dear Don,
> I don´t know if this note I´m adding here is pertinent in our Nabokov-L
> debate.
> And yet, after I had wondered about the word "Rast" and got answers about
> "pederasty" where it was confused with "pedophily" I thought it might be
> profitable to mail. I got it from an online dictionary ( Douglas Harper
> as I
> understood it to be signed )
> The "rast" in pederast has a beautiful Greek origin: erasthai ( love ).
>
> Online dictionary clarification:
>
> pederasty: "sodomy with a boy," 1609, from Mod.L. pæderastia, from Gk.
> paiderastia "love of boys," from paiderastes "pederast," from pais (gen.
> paidos) "child, boy" + erastes "lover," from erasthai "to love." Pederast
> is
> 1730s, from Fr. pédéraste, from Gk. paiderastes.
> pedagogy: 1387, "schoolmaster, teacher," from O.Fr. pedagogue "teacher of
> children," from L. paedagogus "slave who escorted children to school and
> generally supervised them," later "a teacher," from Gk. paidagogos, from
> pais
> (gen. paidos) "child" + agogos "leader," from agein "to lead". Hostile
> implications in the word are at least from the time of Pepys. Pedagogy is
> 1583
> from M.Fr. pédagogie, from Gk. paidagogia "education, attendance on
> children,"
> from paidagogos "teacher."
> pedophilia: 1905, from Gk. pais (gen. paidos) "child" + philos "loving."
> First
> attested in Havelock Ellis. Derivative noun pedophile is first recorded
> 1951.
>
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unusual form of 'pederosis' in _Lolita_ (Part One, Chapter 12, p. 55 of
The _Annotated Lolita_, Vintage 1991, where HH writes ''I had had some
[Italics] experience in my life of pederosis'.
In his note to this Appel explains that the variant is 'from the Greek
paid-[Italics], meaning "child," plus eros [Italics with a horizontal
accent over the 'o'], "sexual love" (akin to erasthai [Italics]: "to
love, desire ardently"), plus Latin suffix, from Greek, -osis [accent on
the 'o'], an "abnormal or diseased condition" (e.g., sclerosis).
Pedophilia is the more common word for H.H.'s malaise.'
Brian Howell
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:22:51 -0700, "Donald B. Johnson"
<chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu> said:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from jansy@aetern.us -----
> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:40:23 +0100
> From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Reply-To: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Subject: Fw: pedagogia/douglas harper online dictionary
> To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum
>
> Dear Don,
> I don´t know if this note I´m adding here is pertinent in our Nabokov-L
> debate.
> And yet, after I had wondered about the word "Rast" and got answers about
> "pederasty" where it was confused with "pedophily" I thought it might be
> profitable to mail. I got it from an online dictionary ( Douglas Harper
> as I
> understood it to be signed )
> The "rast" in pederast has a beautiful Greek origin: erasthai ( love ).
>
> Online dictionary clarification:
>
> pederasty: "sodomy with a boy," 1609, from Mod.L. pæderastia, from Gk.
> paiderastia "love of boys," from paiderastes "pederast," from pais (gen.
> paidos) "child, boy" + erastes "lover," from erasthai "to love." Pederast
> is
> 1730s, from Fr. pédéraste, from Gk. paiderastes.
> pedagogy: 1387, "schoolmaster, teacher," from O.Fr. pedagogue "teacher of
> children," from L. paedagogus "slave who escorted children to school and
> generally supervised them," later "a teacher," from Gk. paidagogos, from
> pais
> (gen. paidos) "child" + agogos "leader," from agein "to lead". Hostile
> implications in the word are at least from the time of Pepys. Pedagogy is
> 1583
> from M.Fr. pédagogie, from Gk. paidagogia "education, attendance on
> children,"
> from paidagogos "teacher."
> pedophilia: 1905, from Gk. pais (gen. paidos) "child" + philos "loving."
> First
> attested in Havelock Ellis. Derivative noun pedophile is first recorded
> 1951.
>
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