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Dear Jansy,
I hope I didn¹t annoy you by addressing both you and Caroline with the
question of whether multiple personalities are a neurotic or psychotic
disorder. The question occurred to me when I read Caroline¹s message of
Monday, 3 p. m. which began with a salutation to you but also with a quote
from you about a comment by me. I was attempting an all-inclusive greeting
that would satisfy my newly-raised standards of forum-posting etiquette.
As for multiple personalities, I¹ve decide to proceed on the belief that
this is a psychotic disorder.
In writing to Jerry, I had no humorous intentions toward absent-minded
seniors, which I think would be unkind. I defy anyone to display more
absent-mindedness than me. My concern was a writerly feeling that Shade¹s
versipel reference marked the start of a new series of imagery rather than
the conclusion of the list of nouns attaching to being groomed, shod, and
fed.
The dying Kibotkin paragraph got messed up in migrating from my mind to the
page; I didn¹t mean it to be serious as it sounds. What I was getting at was
a notion I had that Botkin had metamorphosed completely into ³Kinbote² by
sating himself and driving himself mad in the process of digesting and
commentating Shade¹s mawkish epic The Daughteriad aka Pale Fire.
In the end it is the finally failing fly Botkin who calls Canto Three ³your
favorite² referring to Sybil.
But that¹s just conjecture.
Best,
Andrew B.
On 10/10/06 12:53 PM, "jansymello" <jansy@AETERN.US> wrote:
> Dear Andrew, Jerry, AB, SKB, etc
>
> You addressed both me and Carolyn to ask us to": Please forgive my intrusion
> here, but wouldn¹t multiple personality disorders be categorized more as forms
> of psychosis than neurosis?"
> The expert is Carolyn. I have not the slightest idea about mpd, except from
> watching American movies.
> You wrote to Jerry Friedman: "I can't convince myself that versipel was meant
> by VN to conclude the sequence of morphing comb, shoehorn, spoon." Not even
> as a fenomenologically accurate image, but filled with humor about
> absent-minded senior citizens?
>
> You seem to see John Shade as a very sweet scholarly bumbbling guy while "the
> dying Kibotkin dreamily emits words to his victim¹s wife with the blind
> automaton-like action of a possessed worm." Like the botfly ( it seems to
> have wooed both of us last night?) but you take it more seriously than I do.
> I rather like Kinbote and I even wish it had been he the author of Pale Fire,
> not that other mawkish character.
>
> Anthony Stadlen wrote that in Strong Opinions we can find "VN's positive
> statements.. about Shade's emotional-spiritual life (doesn't sound like what
> you would say about one half of a split) and about Kinbote's being a madman
> who will kill himself shortly after finishing work on the book." Fortunately
> he added that "DN told us that VN denied the single-author theory of "Pale
> Fire"? and now I feel free to favour one over the other without feeling guilty
> towards VN, who created both...
>
> Stan K-B confessed that he is convinced that Jansy M and Carolyn K are
> complementary images of one
> and the same person. Who has ever seen them together in the same room at the
> same time? Further, the letters J and C have an undeniable sans-serif
> chirality that defies ... (cont. page 666). Oh, dear! What the devil does he
> mean by that?
> I wish I could speak English as perfectly as CK and cultivate gorgeous roses -
> although I wouldn't like to be as certain of her views as she is about "Pale
> Fire". I hope K-B sees me as closer to Kinbote, though.
> Jansy
>
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I hope I didn¹t annoy you by addressing both you and Caroline with the
question of whether multiple personalities are a neurotic or psychotic
disorder. The question occurred to me when I read Caroline¹s message of
Monday, 3 p. m. which began with a salutation to you but also with a quote
from you about a comment by me. I was attempting an all-inclusive greeting
that would satisfy my newly-raised standards of forum-posting etiquette.
As for multiple personalities, I¹ve decide to proceed on the belief that
this is a psychotic disorder.
In writing to Jerry, I had no humorous intentions toward absent-minded
seniors, which I think would be unkind. I defy anyone to display more
absent-mindedness than me. My concern was a writerly feeling that Shade¹s
versipel reference marked the start of a new series of imagery rather than
the conclusion of the list of nouns attaching to being groomed, shod, and
fed.
The dying Kibotkin paragraph got messed up in migrating from my mind to the
page; I didn¹t mean it to be serious as it sounds. What I was getting at was
a notion I had that Botkin had metamorphosed completely into ³Kinbote² by
sating himself and driving himself mad in the process of digesting and
commentating Shade¹s mawkish epic The Daughteriad aka Pale Fire.
In the end it is the finally failing fly Botkin who calls Canto Three ³your
favorite² referring to Sybil.
But that¹s just conjecture.
Best,
Andrew B.
On 10/10/06 12:53 PM, "jansymello" <jansy@AETERN.US> wrote:
> Dear Andrew, Jerry, AB, SKB, etc
>
> You addressed both me and Carolyn to ask us to": Please forgive my intrusion
> here, but wouldn¹t multiple personality disorders be categorized more as forms
> of psychosis than neurosis?"
> The expert is Carolyn. I have not the slightest idea about mpd, except from
> watching American movies.
> You wrote to Jerry Friedman: "I can't convince myself that versipel was meant
> by VN to conclude the sequence of morphing comb, shoehorn, spoon." Not even
> as a fenomenologically accurate image, but filled with humor about
> absent-minded senior citizens?
>
> You seem to see John Shade as a very sweet scholarly bumbbling guy while "the
> dying Kibotkin dreamily emits words to his victim¹s wife with the blind
> automaton-like action of a possessed worm." Like the botfly ( it seems to
> have wooed both of us last night?) but you take it more seriously than I do.
> I rather like Kinbote and I even wish it had been he the author of Pale Fire,
> not that other mawkish character.
>
> Anthony Stadlen wrote that in Strong Opinions we can find "VN's positive
> statements.. about Shade's emotional-spiritual life (doesn't sound like what
> you would say about one half of a split) and about Kinbote's being a madman
> who will kill himself shortly after finishing work on the book." Fortunately
> he added that "DN told us that VN denied the single-author theory of "Pale
> Fire"? and now I feel free to favour one over the other without feeling guilty
> towards VN, who created both...
>
> Stan K-B confessed that he is convinced that Jansy M and Carolyn K are
> complementary images of one
> and the same person. Who has ever seen them together in the same room at the
> same time? Further, the letters J and C have an undeniable sans-serif
> chirality that defies ... (cont. page 666). Oh, dear! What the devil does he
> mean by that?
> I wish I could speak English as perfectly as CK and cultivate gorgeous roses -
> although I wouldn't like to be as certain of her views as she is about "Pale
> Fire". I hope K-B sees me as closer to Kinbote, though.
> Jansy
>
>
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