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Re: RES: [NABOKV-L] SKB re: Allan Ginsburg in PF
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In a message dated 8/25/2010 5:54:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
jansy@AETERN.US writes:
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> RSGwynn [to Gary and Stan] :”Of course it could be Lenin's gal garb if we
> impute cross-dressing (why not?) to Kinbote.If you're looking for poets as
> models for CK, try Pound…Hetero, but kinky./ In my essay in the forthcoming
> PF book from Gingko, I do mention Lowell as a possible influence on VN's
> conception of JS's poem, mainly because Lowell's most recent book at the
> time of PF's action was The Mills of the Kavanaughs, much of which is in
> couplets…If VN was going to set his sights on a contemporary poet as one worthy
> of competing with, RL would have been at the top of the heap…
>
>
>
> JM: You are indicating this new “Pale Fire Solus,” ie where there’s no
> Kinbote recreating Shade. Do you consider, then, that this independent
> production, by Nabokov now, would explicitly shape itself following any
> contemporary poet, or its conception result from a poetic competition, instead of
> …what would be the term…traditional poetry?
>
>
>
I don't think there's much doubt that VN was intensely competitive, if
that's what you mean. Lowell's Mills is about the only thing in
then-comtemporary poetry that's anything like "PF"--long narrative poems in rhymed
pentameters.
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jansy@AETERN.US writes:
>
> RSGwynn [to Gary and Stan] :”Of course it could be Lenin's gal garb if we
> impute cross-dressing (why not?) to Kinbote.If you're looking for poets as
> models for CK, try Pound…Hetero, but kinky./ In my essay in the forthcoming
> PF book from Gingko, I do mention Lowell as a possible influence on VN's
> conception of JS's poem, mainly because Lowell's most recent book at the
> time of PF's action was The Mills of the Kavanaughs, much of which is in
> couplets…If VN was going to set his sights on a contemporary poet as one worthy
> of competing with, RL would have been at the top of the heap…
>
>
>
> JM: You are indicating this new “Pale Fire Solus,” ie where there’s no
> Kinbote recreating Shade. Do you consider, then, that this independent
> production, by Nabokov now, would explicitly shape itself following any
> contemporary poet, or its conception result from a poetic competition, instead of
> …what would be the term…traditional poetry?
>
>
>
I don't think there's much doubt that VN was intensely competitive, if
that's what you mean. Lowell's Mills is about the only thing in
then-comtemporary poetry that's anything like "PF"--long narrative poems in rhymed
pentameters.
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